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so i have good news and bad news about the speed change (with reframe_RT), i saw on this page: https://git.cinelerra-gg.org/git/?p=goodguy/cinelerra.git;a=summary that the speed change was sort of "finished", and i was curious to how it works now, since i use arch system, i used the AUR to install the latest github version, and i will say, it works BETTER then before, but a small issue still exist and i thought i will report it now so it will be fixed before the next release, (basically the cut is going to the next video while it supposed to be on the previews clip) report.f4v (3,657,693 bytes) |
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yeah, tried the new option... and this happened... lol XD not working, but it was funny in mu opinion how it just randomly happened while i was happy to finally edit report-2020-08-11_12.28.05.mp4 (262,192 bytes) |
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@Andrea_Paz thanks for the respond, i found the speed curve and i will say it works better then reframe_RT with that it doesnt take a different timeset from the video after a cut, it will take some getting used, but im REALLY glad i can finally use cinelerra-GG as my main editor and more then agree to change my workflow a bit for it :D |
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For the use of speed curves alias speed auto, (very convenient and simple) try the following tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yVeFepdvaU |
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@PhyllisSmith i think i misunderstood, was the "fix" basically getting the results i got? or was it an actual fix that will help me work better in cinelerra when it comes to speeding up and slowing down video? |
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@PhyllisSmith i dont see misunderstanding, but when i went to the link you provided for me to check it works, in reframe_RT i got the same result, and i didnt see any new speed effects, if there is, i would like to know the name, so i can check it, (i didnt find speed auto) |
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I think I must be misunderstanding -- the fix that was added is what you reported with your demonstration file of report.mp4 in your previous note. Which was: "when i speed up a video (and probably even without) and cut from one part to another, the cut either goes to a different area of the video, or its completly gone, idk if happens just to me, but it happens often and i just shacked it off because i wasnt inside REALLY deep into the projects at those times, idk how to even explain this but it basically changes the video itself to a different part of the time of the video." |
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@houku i should also specify i downloaded the file too.. |
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@PhyllisSmith i would love to test it, however, i cant find any of the effects mentioned, and the reframe effect is still not working (same result in it)
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@houku GG has made a "fix" and what we have tested is working well. There is an Arch (EndeavorOS??) static tar available at: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-arch-x86_64-static.txz Although it is a lot of work for you to test this, it would be appreciated because if we did not get every expected case fixed then we will not know until after the August 31 builds if it is OK. One thing to know is: "When working with edits and the speed auto, if you make a "cut" in a section, the speed curve values should not change over the remaining playable edits. It is possible to easily add "disjoint" curve points at the boundaries of the edit to preserve the curve shape." |
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@houku You explained it well with the attached .mp4 files. GG looked at this and said "yes, this is a bug and it is a tough one to fix". Don't wait to report bugs because you think we may already know about it because we often do not. Different users do different things and you would be surprised how users do something we never expect. Just a note -- 22 bugs were fixed in the July release and with only 1 major programmer there is only so much can be done -- I wish there were no more bugs! |
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fix for the previous note i added: idk how to even explain this, i was holding back from reporting this because i didnt care enough and was like "if it happens to me it probably happens to everyone so it might fix itself soon", but NO, a new version was released and i still get that bug! so whats happening is: when i speed up a video (and probably even without) and cut from one part to another, the cut either goes to a different area of the video, or its completly gone, idk if happens just to me, but it happens often and i just shacked it off because i wasnt inside REALLY deep into the projects at those times, idk how to even explain this but it basically changes the video itself to a different part of the time of the video. report-2.mp4 (1,847,191 bytes) |
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this is an extreamly annoying!!! (i would make a new report issue but it doesnt take me to the page) idk how to even explain this, i was holding back from reporting this because i didnt care enough and was like "if it happens to me it probably happens to eve> so whats happening is: when i speed up a video (and probably even without) and cut from one part to another, the cut either goes to a different area of the video, or its completly > idk how to even explain this but it basically changes the video itself to a different part of the time of the video. report.mp4 (1,847,191 bytes) |
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Try using Time stretch RT to play with audio speed- you set the ratio of samples in/samples out, so 2 in/1 out will play double speed. |
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ResampleRT was fixed and checked into GIT. The fix will be included in the July 31 builds. Andrea has verified that it now works correctly. Still looking at Andrew-R's suggestion for Time_stretch RT. |
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@PhyllisSmith > The input upper limit is 1000 and the output limit is 1/1000. May be you can make those limits configurable in main plugin window, with some smaller default values? And 'accept' button ... Because _I think_ part of value of those plugins is exactly their ability to be reconfigured while playing .... |
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@Andrea_Paz (and houku) It does appear that ResampleRT for an audio effect is broken and plays no sound. I will demonstrate to GG to see if he can fix it. @Andrew-R ABOUT "I tried TIME_STRETCH_RT on two audio tracks, and while it worked initially, at some point I deleted one number right of decimal dot (1.700 -> del 7 -> 1.000 -> del 1 -> 0.000) so field for number of output samples become zero briefly, all while timeline was playing = playback HANG!" GG looked at the dump and the code. As it turns out, "technically" it did not hang -- you just did not wait 3 hours for it to finish !!!!! Let me explain as best I can from what he said. The input upper limit is 1000 and the output limit is 1/1000. So with your temporary setting it would take 10,000 seconds to generate 1 second (i.e. about 3 hours). Currently there is no "interrupt" capability in plugins so there was no way for you to stop this (in a similar manner to which you stop a Render when you want to). Right now we have not thought of a good solution to prevent this. Any easy suggestions out there? I guess the workaround is to not change the number while playing. |
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Blue Banana's OK with me. ResampleRT doesn't give me any errors, only that no sound comes out. User Bins are OK with me |
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okay, so while some effects dont work still, i got the files in media importing correctly, the solution is to: 1) use the File -> Load files option 2) pick the files in 1 folder that you want and instead of using the green colored checkmark, use the "Apply" button; it seems like the majority of the users use an Insertion Strategy of "Create new resources only" BUT it is just as easy to use "Append in new tracks". 3) change the folder on the top line, pick more files, and use the "apply" button. 4) repeat until done! as @PhyllisSmith said, im glad i fopund cinelerra and it finally working for me, i love it and hope it becomes best video editor that everyone will use! |
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@houku "cant import multiple files from different folders" -- you just have to change your workflow a little. Here is a good way: 1) use the File -> Load files option 2) pick the files in 1 folder that you want and instead of using the green colored checkmark, use the "Apply" button; it seems like the majority of the users use an Insertion Strategy of "Create new resources only" BUT it is just as easy to use "Append in new tracks". 3) change the folder on the top line, pick more files, and use the "apply" button. 4) repeat until done! |
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also, i cant import multiple files from different folders because it resets the media tab and timeline, i also tried bins but importing from different folder just removes the bin even if it has a clip in it |
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@houku Interesting report! Probably you should not be trying to use "blue banana" as an initial attempt at using effects as it is one of the most complicated with lots of parameters - it is described in the manual on 8 pages which is too much to absorb. Use Color 3 Way or Color Balance as much simpler. "Resample" to speed up the audio or the video work, but may not be obvious. Alternatively, most users use the "speed auto" instead which seems easier but could use some improvements. To use the Speed Auto, use the "View" pulldown where you will see the option "Speed" (10th one down). Enable it by clicking and you will see a colored line show up on the Video and Audio tracks. Left mouse click on the colored line and move it to speed up or down (the timeline thumbnails will get shorter or longer). Double click using the left mouse button to speed up/down the video and audio in tandem. Meanwhile, I will test Resample to see how it works and explain it better. "need some youtube tutorials, but the channel of cinelerra GG, isnt exacly english" -- Sam, Andrea, and RafaMar have just opened up the YouTube channel so it will become more populated in the future. Unfortunately, most of the videos are not created by English speakers, hence the subtitles instead. |
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yeah, I tried TIME_STRETCH_RT on two audio tracks, and while it worked initially, at some point I deleted one number right of decimal dot (1.700 -> del 7 -> 1.000 -> del 1 -> 0.000) so field for number of output samples become zero briefly, all while timeline was playing = playback HANG! cin Cinelerra Infinity - built: Jul 11 2020 10:07:03 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra. RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started ^Csignal_entry: got SIGINT my pid=20333 execution table size=0: ** intr at 0xf7b8e829 in pid 20299, tid 20299 writing debug data to /tmp/cinelerra_20299.dmp signal_entry: lock table size=1 lock_items: 0 lock_frees: 1 SigHandler::signal_handler total files=0 lock_items: 28 lock_frees: 8 ** dump complete ^C cinelerra_20299.dmp (156,888 bytes) |
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i should also note that i cant import multiple files from different folders because it resets the media tab and timeline, i also tried bins but importing from different folder just removes the bin even if it has a clip in it |
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