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                        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 07:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks for watching it again :) And no I haven&#039;t changed anything since the last time, but maybe it is because there are several things to see in this video.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="VIiyi"><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="0"><span>Thanks for watching it again :) And no I haven't changed anything since the last time, but maybe it is because there are several things to see in this video.</span></span></span></p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/es/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>chapolin</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2021 22:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@chapolin
No problem - we will be here for your next video!  I had to watch it again for entertainment and it looks like you changed it because the first time I watched it the koala bear we...]]></description>
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<p>No problem - we will be here for your next video!  I had to watch it again for entertainment and it looks like you changed it because the first time I watched it the koala bear went up in flames but now I see it is back in the shape of a heart. But then he gets burnt again.</p>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2021 21:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Sorry, I&#039;m coming back a little late but today I want to thank you for your appreciations, your listening and your very precious help! Soon I am thinking of doing a new version with video of...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="VIiyi"><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="0"><span>Sorry, I'm coming back a little late but today I want to thank you for your appreciations, your listening and your very precious help!</span></span> <span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="1"><span>Soon I am thinking of doing a new version with video of this song and I already have a second in progress. I would not fail to come and show them to you :)</span></span></span></p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/es/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>chapolin</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2021 06:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@chapolinThe final result looks very good to me. How many Mega Bytes is the render file?
I noticed that many linux users here play an instrument. And they are all professionals. WOW!]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chapolin<br />The final result looks very good to me. How many Mega Bytes is the render file?</p>
<p>I noticed that many linux users here play an instrument. And they are all professionals. WOW!</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/es/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>IgorBeg</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@chapolinThank you very much for following up so that we know you found a workable solution although it may not be what you really set out to do.
Loved the youtube video !! You took advanta...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chapolin<br />Thank you very much for following up so that we know you found a workable solution although it may not be what you really set out to do.</p>
<p>Loved the youtube video !! You took advantage of a lot of Cinelerra-GG plugins, especially starting at 53 seconds.  But I was very disappointed at 2:12 when the Koala Bear got set on fire.  At least your eyes lit up in the end at 4:11 -- I could not stop laughing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2021 21:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thank you very much for your help and patience. In the end, I couldn&#039;t do what I initially wanted to do when I had the problem. But with your help I was able to find a solution by applying a...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="VIiyi"><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="0"><span>Thank you very much for your help and patience.</span></span> <span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="1"><span>In the end, I couldn't do what I initially wanted to do when I had the problem.</span></span> <span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="2"><span>But with your help I was able to find a solution by applying an effect, Vibrance, to reduce the edges, then I applied BurningTV and in the end I found the result even better than I wanted to do :)!</span></span><span class="JLqJ4b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="3"><span> </span></span><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="4"><span>I rendered with the quality setting set to 28.</span></span><span class="JLqJ4b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="5"><span> </span></span><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="6"><span>You can see the final result on YouTube here:</span></span><span class="JLqJ4b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="7"><span> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="VIiyi"><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="8"><span><a href="https://youtu.be/wOpg-eUTEmA" target="true">https://youtu.be/wOpg-eUTEmA</a></span></span><span class="JLqJ4b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="9"><span> </span></span></span></p>
<p><span class="VIiyi"><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="10"><span>the problematic passage is from 3'06.</span></span></span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <link>https://cinelerra-gg.org/es/forum/help-video/problem-with-burningtv-plugin-after-the-rendering/#post-1759</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that Color_Range=Full (juvj420p) is the problem, because in the rendering file without BurningTV it works. But I can wrong.

What codec may I use for example ?

Only for te...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think that Color_Range=Full (juvj420p) is the problem, because in the rendering file without BurningTV it works. But I can wrong.</p>
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<p>What codec may I use for example ?</p>
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<p>Only for test, you could try MOV codec. MOV codec is more decoding friendly.<br />But the Bit_rate have to be high. Let's say around 100Mbps?<br />Take attemption to the disk space, please.</p>
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<p>...the image where I use BurningTV is very strongly magnified by zooming in with the camera in CinGG...</p>
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<p>I don't think it depends from that. I think the problem are all the edges in the image. Decoding all the information (also for the output file) require processing. You could crop the image in GIMP but I think it will not help.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2021 23:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thank you very much for your help :)!

 Posté par: @igorbeg 
2. Changing the Bit rate: 50Mbps may be enough? To change it in rendering window: Quality=-1 and Bit_rate= 50000000
 

I tr...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for your help :)!</p>
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<p>2. Changing the Bit rate: 50Mbps may be enough? To change it in rendering window: Quality=-1 and Bit_rate= 50000000</p>
<p> </p>
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<p>I tried this and the rendering work well but the final quality is not enough, I will try with more value Bit-rate ...</p>
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<div class="wpforo-post-quote-author"><strong> Posté par: @phylsmith2004 </strong></div>
<p>1) Does the render complete in CinGG?</p>
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<p>Yes I make all the render with CinGG</p>
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<p>3. Changing the Codec with another one that requires less decoding (but takes more Hard Disk space).</p>
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<p>What codec may I use for example ?</p>
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<p>2) If you load the rendered file in Cinelerra, does it play without getting stuck?</p>
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<p>Yes I tried this with only the track with BurningTV, with the hope to not to have to use BurningTV after, <span class="VIiyi"><span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="3"><span>but the problem persists</span></span></span> .</p>
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<p>The image (frame) size, you applied BurningTV, is 2706 x 1512; BurningTV works on the edge of the black/white colour and your image has a lot of the edges. More the Bit rate is 551 Mbps, a lot of data.<br />It is hard decoding such data of information (with BurningTV) by VLC, and the video freezes.</p>
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<p>In fact, the image where I use BurningTV <span class="VIiyi"><span class="JLqJ4b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="2"><span> </span></span> <span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="3"><span>is very strongly magnified by zooming in with the camera in CinGG, to have a very small part of the image which occupies the whole screen and which gives an interesting effect with BurningTV.</span></span> <span class="JLqJ4b ChMk0b" data-language-for-alternatives="en" data-language-to-translate-into="fr" data-phrase-index="4"><span>Finally the problem could come from there?</span></span></span> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2021 21:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@chapolin
Thanks for supplying additional information and thanks to @IgorBeg for analysis and assistance.  Not sure if you have applied his suggestions and have gotten a resolution, but if ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@chapolin</p>
<p>Thanks for supplying additional information and thanks to @IgorBeg for analysis and assistance.  Not sure if you have applied his suggestions and have gotten a resolution, but if so then ignore my musings and questions below.</p>
<p>1) Does the render complete in CinGG?</p>
<p>2) If you load the rendered file in Cinelerra, does it play without getting stuck?</p>
<p>3) At a terminal window, if you play the rendered mp4 file using "ffplay filename.mp4" does that get stuck?  Hopefully you have ffplay (in my O/S, ffplay is in /root/bin). </p>
<p>4) Using "ffprobe filename.mp4" I noticed a concerning value of yuv<strong>j</strong>420p which gives an error message during ffplay of #3 above, stating "deprecated pixel format used, make sure you did set range correctly".  This is only a warning and not the cause of the problem but is it possible that VLC is not allowing this format to be correctly processed?  I know in Cinelerra we had added code in April 2020 to accommodate yuv<strong>j</strong>420p for video from a drone that was taking advantage of the hardware acceleration code in CinGG.  FFmpeg was rejecting it at the hardware level and reverting to software.  THIS MAY BE IRRELEVANT.</p>
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<p># ffprobe /root/Downloads/Essais_burningTV_30.mp4 <br />Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from '/root/Downloads/Essais_burningTV_30.mp4':<br />...<br />Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), <strong>yuvj420p</strong>(pc, smpte170m/unknown/unknown), 2706x1512 , 550600 kb/s, 59.94 fps, 59.94 tbr, 60k tbn, 119.88 tbc (default)<br /><br /></p>
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<p>What I read about yuv<strong>j</strong>420p is that if the Color Range is Full (which in your file, it is) then instead of using yuv420p, it uses yuv<strong>j</strong>420p automatically.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2021 06:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing @chapolin.At the bottom of my reply you can see MediaInfo information about your file.
Is &quot;Essais_burningTV_30.mp4&quot; file, by Wetransfer, rendering by Cinelerra-GG?If Yes,...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing @chapolin.<br />At the bottom of my reply you can see MediaInfo information about your file.</p>
<p>Is "Essais_burningTV_30.mp4" file, by Wetransfer, rendering by Cinelerra-GG?<br />If Yes, some things about, but out of the problem, I think.<br />The size of the your project (UHD: 2706 x 1512 pixels) is not standard and "Matrix coefficients" is BT.601 instead of BT.709 (or BT.2020?).</p>
<p>With your informations in topic and Mediainfo informations, I think...<br />The image (frame) size, you applied BurningTV, is 2706 x 1512; BurningTV works on the edge of the black/white colour and your image has a lot of the edges. More the Bit rate is 551 Mbps, a lot of data.<br />It is hard decoding such data of information (with BurningTV) by VLC, and the video freezes.<br />What you could do?<br />1. Could you change that image with another with less edges? I guess NO!<br />2. Changing the Bit rate: 50Mbps may be enough? To change it in rendering window: Quality=-1 and Bit_rate=50000000.<br />3. Changing the Codec with another one that requires less decoding (but takes more Hard Disk space).</p>
<p>Maybe other Users have different idea.</p>
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Duration                                 : 21 s 460 ms
Overall bit rate                         : 550 Mb/s
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                                           trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 /
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                                           nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 /
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                                           bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 /
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