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									Multicam and splitted files - Video Editing				            </title>
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                        <title>RE: Multicam and splitted files</title>
                        <link>https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/multicam-and-splitted-files/#post-2787</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 08:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yes, i think a &quot;script&quot; is not the right term in this case.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, i think a "script" is not the right term in this case.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>Kabak (Français, English)</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Multicam and splitted files</title>
                        <link>https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/multicam-and-splitted-files/#post-2786</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 08:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@igorbeg I didn&#039;t work on the other parts for the moment. I wil retry monday. I think i will have a more time.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@igorbeg I didn't work on the other parts for the moment. I wil retry monday. I think i will have a more time.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>Kabak (Français, English)</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Multicam and splitted files</title>
                        <link>https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/multicam-and-splitted-files/#post-2785</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 07:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@kabak 
Over time I have repeatedly tried to create a script that would take the various media + external audio collected in a folder, do audio/video synchronization, and then delete the in...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kabak </p>
<p>Over time I have repeatedly tried to create a script that would take the various media + external audio collected in a folder, do audio/video synchronization, and then delete the internal audio tracks and replace them with the external one. I thought it could be done with ffmpeg and its feature. Unfortunately, I do not have the capability and have always failed. One could also introduce, in such a script, the concatenation of the files.<br /><br />1- collect the files into one folder (video files+internal audio; external audio).<br />2- Synchronize the files with the external audio track (your choice of timecode or waveform).<br />3- Duplicate and break the external audio track so that there are coincidental chunks with the various files.<br />4- Associate the audio clips with the relevant files.<br />5- Delete the internal audio tracks leaving only the external one.<br />6- Concatenate the files for each camera/scene with which they were recorded (also leaving blanks if they are not strictly consecutive).<br /><br />I guess it would be a real program rather than a simple script.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>andreapaz</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Answer to: Multicam and splitted files</title>
                        <link>https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/multicam-and-splitted-files/#post-2784</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 06:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@Kabak wrote:
When you use &quot;cat&quot; command, you join the files,
the packet is entire so it&#039;s work fine

Good! The &quot;cat&quot; command do the work! Good to know for MTS files by Panasonic. Thanks...]]></description>
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<pre contenteditable="false"><strong>@Kabak wrote:</strong>
When you use "cat" command, you join the files,
the packet is entire so it's work fine</pre>
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<p>Good! The "cat" command do the work! Good to know for MTS files by Panasonic. Thanks!</p>
<p>For the other questions about Multicam, are you in the right way?</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>IgorBeg</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Answer to: Multicam and splitted files</title>
                        <link>https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/multicam-and-splitted-files/#post-2783</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2024 21:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I was looking a solution for merging my MTS/TS files into a single virtual file and i think i found the perfect way : concatfs
It use FUSE to make the virtual file. No need loosing disk spa...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking a solution for merging my MTS/TS files into a single virtual file and i think i found the perfect way : concatfs</p>
<p>It use FUSE to make the virtual file. No need loosing disk space and time in files concatenation or making big modification to cinelerra. This methods build the result file few seconds and work fine.</p>
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<p>With this, i think we can build a specific assistant to import those files by selecting necessary files and group them.<br />It seem to be also possible to automatically group the different record from a camera by using metadata (is start date/hour + duration similar to next file) and by using MTS packet counter (4 bits counter, little after sync character 1/16 probability of wrong detection).</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In my real case, one camera with 14 files from 4 record loaded in less of 1 minute for an single will be a huge improvement.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>Kabak (Français, English)</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Answer to: Multicam and splitted files</title>
                        <link>https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/multicam-and-splitted-files/#post-2782</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2024 13:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@igorbeg I think there is no common frame between the two files.
01150.MTS and 01150-01151 start are perfectly aligned01151.MTS and 01150-01151 ends are perfectly aligned (checked with spot...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@igorbeg I think there is no common frame between the two files.</p>
<p>01150.MTS and 01150-01151 start are perfectly aligned<br />01151.MTS and 01150-01151 ends are perfectly aligned (checked with spotlights switching)</p>
<p>When you see info from the media, you see there is frame missing (1629 + 17277 = 18906 &lt;&gt; 18909 ):</p>
<pre contenteditable="false">01150-01151.MTS
1 video stream
Vid0 (0), id 0x00001b:
video1 h264 1920x1080 25.00 pix yuv420p
interlace (container level): 2
interlace (codec level): -1
color space:unknown/ range:unknown
codec Detected SAR: 1:1 , DAR 16:9
18909+0 frms 756.34 secs 0:12:36.34


01150.MTS
1 video stream
Vid0 (0), id 0x00001b:
video1 h264 1920x1080 25.00 pix yuv420p
interlace (container level): 2
interlace (codec level): -1
color space:unknown/ range:unknown
codec Detected SAR: 1:1 , DAR 16:9
17277+0 frms 691.06 secs 0:11:31.06


01151.MTS
1 video stream
Vid0 (0), id 0x00001b:
video1 h264 1920x1080 25.00 pix yuv420p
interlace (container level): 2
interlace (codec level): -1
color space:unknown/ range:unknown
codec Detected SAR: 1:1 , DAR 16:9
1629+0 frms 65.14 secs 0:01:05.14</pre>
<p>MPEG transportation stream use packets so i think you have something like that :<br />File 1 : Packet x : Frame A1, A2, A3<br />File 1 : Packet y : Frame B1, partial B2<br />File 2 : Packet y : Frame Partial B2, B3<br />File 2 : Packet z : Frame C1, C2, C3</p>
<p>Packet y is split between two files so CRC integrity failed and so the frames B1, B2, B3 are lost.</p>
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<p>When you use "cat" command, you join the files, the packet is entire so it's work fine.</p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>Kabak (Français, English)</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Multicam and splitted files</title>
                        <link>https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/multicam-and-splitted-files/#post-2781</link>
                        <pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2024 07:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@KabakI agree with you for the bandwidth. Well, It doesn&#039;t matter to share the media.I saw your &quot;MTS-concat-needed-2.png&quot; screenshot.Could you tell me if the last frame of the first video is...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kabak<br />I agree with you for the bandwidth. Well, It doesn't matter to share the media.<br />I saw your "MTS-concat-needed-2.png" screenshot.<br />Could you tell me if the last frame of the first video is the same of the first frame of the second video?<br />I would like to know if each video contains, in the head and in the end, the two same frames of the previous video and the next video:</p>
<pre contenteditable="false">AAAAA
    ABBBBBC
          CCCCCC
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<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>IgorBeg</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Multicam and splitted files</title>
                        <link>https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/multicam-and-splitted-files/#post-2780</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 16:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[True, the link is no longer active. If you feel like downloading it from Google Drive, I still have a copy]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, the link is no longer active. If you feel like downloading it from Google Drive, I still have a copy:<br />https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XfIlyF60NWGlcZsL1efgfkx2fGria3RL/view?usp=drive_link</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>andreapaz</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Answer to: Multicam and splitted files</title>
                        <link>https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/multicam-and-splitted-files/#post-2779</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 13:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@andreapaz 
I got 404 error from the link :🤔

 
Maybe, maybe not.
If we want to build an easier workflow, it can have a place.
 

 
I will tell you.
For the lost frames with splitt...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@andreapaz </p>
<p>I got 404 error from the link : https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-forum.zip 🤔</p>
<p></p>
<p><em>But this is all misleading with respect to your problems with multicam, it was better if I didn't talk about it.</em></p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Maybe, maybe not.</p>
<p>If we want to build an easier workflow, it can have a place.</p>
<p> </p>
<p></p>
<p><em>If you can find a good workflow and remedy the loss of frame/sync, let us know, that we will improve the manual.</em></p>
<p></p>
<p> </p>
<p>I will tell you.</p>
<p>For the lost frames with splitted MTS file, it's seem to be an know issue with many softwares (even ffmpeg) so i think it must be treated when we load it into the media window.</p>
<p>We will know if i can make "test files" for this part.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>Kabak (Français, English)</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Multicam and splitted files</title>
                        <link>https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/multicam-and-splitted-files/#post-2778</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 12:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@igorbeg
For the privacy and &quot;copyright&quot; , i think it&#039;s not an problem. I think i can make a specific record with the same camera and a 7 segments display counter using 25 Hz at input to ha...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@igorbeg
<p>For the privacy and "copyright" , i think it's not an problem. I think i can make a specific record with the same camera and a 7 segments display counter using 25 Hz at input to have a good view of the missing frames issue and using a rhythm generator from audacity for the audio track.</p>
<p>My big concern is about sending those file due to my low bandwidth. About 20 hours if i didn't have interruption. Some FTP can't resume file transfer, transferring 700mb file is already a challenge on them. Maybe using torrent ?</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://cinelerra-gg.org/ja/forum/help-video/">Video Editing</category>                        <dc:creator>Kabak (Français, English)</dc:creator>
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