Workflow for edit-down and export - Video Editing

Answer to: Workflow for edit-down and export

andreapaz — Mon, 13 Jun 2022 08:51:40 +0000

@adam4567

Don't bring any problems in asking questions, we are here to discuss and help each other!
Then if you produce any non-private videos, you can put a link in the "Look at Me" section so we can see and discuss them.

Answer to: Workflow for edit-down and export

IgorBeg — Mon, 13 Jun 2022 06:53:18 +0000

Hi @adam4567,
I think it doesn't matter if the questions are for Beginner or Advanced(?).
I think that it is more important the post's title, so other users can see and find it at first glance.
Moderators @andreapaz and @phylsmith2004 can say more.

In all cases if you need answers (suggestions), it is better you write everywhere. ;-)

Answer to: Workflow for edit-down and export

adam4567 — Sun, 12 Jun 2022 07:14:25 +0000

The AppImage works great. Had a system failure, re-installed, and latest Cinelerra installs well.

My editing is coming along. I just completed my first 4'44" experimental film. A learning experience.

Many questions, so should I tack them on this thread here, or ask only a couple at a time under Beginner, Novice or Editing forums?

Thank you folks, good luck to all.

Answer to: Workflow for edit-down and export

adam4567 — Sun, 19 Dec 2021 08:22:08 +0000

Thank You. I am making progress.

Arming the track, before dragging a clip there, was interesting.

I'll keep at it. Thank you again.

Answer to: Workflow for edit-down and export

andreapaz — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 16:56:02 +0000

"o" is used to load an existing project or additional mediafiles. For a new project "n" is used instead.
When you have already loaded a project you can add other mediafiles with "o" choosing as option "Create new resources only"; in this way the mediafile will be added to the "Media" bin in the Resources window, where are the other mediafiles of the project, and we can drag them to the timeline as we like (or open them in the Viewer window where we can choose the segment to insert in the timeline). See the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN65958gpBQ&list=PLOnHGAy9DoU2iRnaeqbaZNLI1VL_UMu_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgLAaxmCsNk&list=PLOnHGAy9DoU0dBhf7ibgsmpddDoHhdj-Y&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoJKEtaGXc4&list=PLOnHGAy9DoU0dBhf7ibgsmpddDoHhdj-Y&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15O4xRrrhUg&list=PLOnHGAy9DoU0dBhf7ibgsmpddDoHhdj-Y&index=3

and also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lXyGGJWO2Y&list=PLOnHGAy9DoU37ab-WnOjBKi87AOxLxpzF

and more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_diECpahbq0&list=PLOnHGAy9DoU1mBA55D9SoQOb-V721345u

Answer to: Workflow for edit-down and export

phylsmith2004 — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:43:27 +0000

@adam4567

And I hope this is not just a simple answer.

Use the "File" pulldown in the main window and then the option "Load files.... choose the file you want to load.

The important part now is on the bottom of that menu is "Load Strategy" which you should change to the last icon which is "Create new resources only". Click + and then that file will be in the Media bin.

Answer to: Workflow for edit-down and export

adam4567 — Thu, 16 Dec 2021 11:45:07 +0000

How to Load a file, into the media bin, without using the O for opening a new project?

The situation is, I have opened a project using O and those video files are available to drag and drop.

My problem is, I wish to add a different audio file later, but how to Load that to Drag and Drop.

I apologize if this is a simple question, I just have not found any such Load command in the manual.

RE: Workflow for edit-down and export

phylsmith2004 — Wed, 23 Jun 2021 00:46:03 +0000

The CinGG Comprehensive User Manual in PDF is dated April 4 2020,

Download the latest (May 31, 2021) PDF version of the manual at:

https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual.pdf

Answer to: Workflow for edit-down and export

andreapaz — Mon, 21 Jun 2021 12:37:40 +0000

@adam4567
1) The manual has frequent updates, so it's worth downloading it at least once a month. The base is always the pdf (so for sure it's the most updated) but it's difficult for the html version to be left behind.
"Don't send to Output" is really the "Mute" that applies to the entire track (I would change the name!). With the "mute" curve you can act on regions of the track. Using Play Track and Arm makes it unnecessary to use mute button, but by now I'm used to unchecking this button too...
2) Sometimes clips move into unwanted areas for me too. More often it happens to me with the effects bars. But I think they are always caused by my mistakes.

OT: I'm not sure I understand correctly. From within CinGG there is the Freeze Frame plugin to stretch a single frame into a desired interval. Or you can get a snapshot of the frame and then insert it in the timeline and stretch the duration as long as you want. Or you can render a single frame (setting the desired parameters and thus obtaining a higher quality of the snapshot, which is a png) and then import it into the timeline.

@andreapaz

adam4567 — Mon, 21 Jun 2021 06:53:37 +0000

1) I'm getting used to the Patchbay. The CinGG Comprehensive User Manual in PDF is dated April 4 2020, and refers to 5 attributes in Figure 5.1, whereas its 6 attributes now. So I am using the html Manual at //cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/

Patchbay attribute 'Don't Send to Output' confuses me. For my Muted track I want that enabled (not sent to output), which is surely a Green surround (pink line at bottom of frames) not the toggled Black surround (pink line at top of frames) which WOULD send to output. I think that is right. To 'mute' a track, I click both Play Track (to the black surround) and Arm Track (to locked with black surround). Then I drag clips and compose them onto a new track.

2) The EDL (xml file) seems to work very well. I have rendered my effected clips, deleted the source clip and re-imported the rendered clip. Nested Clips and the workflow described at "Workflow with OpenEDL and Nested Clips" is taking me time to digest. Will re-read and keep at it. I notice I sometimes need to Edit --> Paste Silence into blank spots of my composing track, otherwise a ghost clip may appear there on playback or render, (I noticed that once with the ReframeRT clip re-appearing from an otherwise blank area of timeline).

My "space around the clips", I thought was for adjusting, lengthening the clip after the ReframeRT effect. However I am rendering the effect and importing the resultant effected clip now.

Off-Topic: I notice with these 16mm home movies, the very first frame of each new scene is over-exposed, and this is clearly the camera mechanism getting up to speed when it was filmed. As some of the source can be under-exposed, these well-exposed single frames take on a new importance. I'm trying now to drop them out from the MKV, but stretching or holding a single frame in CinGG (rendering a single frame to several seconds) would be great. Perhaps that's possible in CinGG, however I can do it externally with ffmpeg.

Thank you folks.